Ep #184: Weight and Wellness: A Discussion with Jennifer Trepeck

By: Dr. Sherry Price

Weight and Wellness: A Discussion with Jennifer Trepeck

What crosses your mind when you think about weight or weight loss?

It’s a regular topic of discussion, especially among women.

Many of us grew up watching the women in our lives engage in fad diets, counting calories or even engaging in public weigh-ins.

There is so much more to your weight than just calories in, calories out. And there’s so much more to how our bodies work than simply striving to achieve what we believe is an ideal number on the scale.

If you find yourself on the hamster wheel of weight loss, this episode is for you.

My guest today is Jennifer Trepeck, who is recognized as a “force of nature” in the wellness space. Jennifer and I discuss topics including the roller coaster ride of weight and how fad diets have wronged us in the past, what works for burning fat and stimulating fat loss, and the bogus parameter of BMI. We also explore how to make intellectual versus emotional decisions with food, how alcohol impacts your waistline and your health, and the power of low glycemic impact nutrition.

What You’ll Learn in this Episode:

  • Whether  “calories in and calories out” is true or just a weight loss myth
  • How we can find more movement throughout the day
  • The impact your muscles have on your metabolism 

I hope you enjoy this episode with Jennifer and are able to take some actionable steps toward becoming EpicYOU.

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If you’re ready to learn what will melt fat weight off your body, you have to listen to this week’s podcast episode. Joining me today is Jen Trepeck, and she has been described as a force of nature in the wellness space. She is an optimal health coach, podcaster, and business consultant. Jen started her podcast salad with a side of fries to teach nutritional education that we were all supposed to know, but no one has taught us in today’s podcast episode, we discuss a multitude of topics, including the roller coaster ride and how fad diets have done us wrong in the past. We talk about what does work for burning fat and stimulating fat loss. We talk about the bogus parameter of BMI.

As a true health metric, we talk about Jen’s story and how she has lost weight and the role alcohol plays on our [00:01:00] waistline. I’m excited for you to listen in to this week’s podcast episode with Jen Trepik. 

Hi, Jen, and welcome to the show. Hi, Sherry. Thanks for having me. I’m so excited to be here. Yeah. I can’t wait to get into your story and all the things that you do, but I first want to start off as you know, I’m transitioning my podcast into more health and wellness, and that’s exactly the space that you’re in.

And I love to talk about , just the misinformation out there. I just recorded a podcast a week or two ago talking about, and really harping on this myth of like calories in equals calories out and how people still come thinking they have to count all the calories and, count this way.

And it’s, what’s going to move the needle and it’s, what’s going to move the scale. So I’d love to start off the conversation by you telling us like, what is your take on this calories in calories out? Yeah. Yeah. So. [00:02:00] Fundamentally, we all know that’s not true, that there’s more to the story. 

It’s not that it’s not true. It’s that it’s not the whole conversation. And unfortunately, that’s where most people end the sentence, right? And you don’t need your degree or mine to know that because think about how you feel if you eat a thousand calories of Skittles versus a thousand calories of apples.

Like, do not recommend either one, full disclosure, right? Neither one is what we’re saying. I don’t even know if I can eat a thousand calories of apples in one day. Totally. But we know that those two things are not the same in the body. Ultimately, the idea is not the number of calories. ? So [00:03:00] that takes care of the calories in part.

The calories out part is like at some point, you can’t work out another minute in the day. There are still only 24 hours in a day. And if what you’re telling me means that I have to spend a vast majority of the day working out in order to quote unquote balance what I’m taking in, we have a problem. 

Right. So I like to teach people instead of calories in calories out, I call it quality in quality out, get up and move more. So it’s the quality of the calories that we’re taking in the apple versus the skittles. That will determine the quality of our energy and our life and everything we’re doing.

And then we want to move more. And I say move more [00:04:00] because, you know, we talk about all the time, right? Sitting is the new smoking. Have you heard that? Yes, of course. , and that’s because sitting all day is so not human. Right? Well, it’s also not human to sit all day and then goes berserk for one hour.

Like that’s just as odd to the human body as sitting all day. So if we look at it as moving more, it’s like, how can we find movement throughout the day? Maybe that means, taking a walk and talk instead of a zoom so that we can just pace or a 10 minute walk after each meal. Doesn’t have to entirely disrupt your day, but the more regular movement that we can get, the better off we’ll be because that calories in calories out thing makes us feel like if the workout isn’t long enough, if it’s [00:05:00] not intense enough, then it doesn’t count.

Yes. That perfectionistic mentality around exercise, it needs to meet these criteria to count as exercise. Yeah. Right. I would love to dive in a little bit more. Just the example that you gave about the Skittles, right. And we know that all that high fructose corn syrup and those dyes and whatever else crap it contains, like it’s not even just only the quality of the calories or lack thereof when it comes to Skittles, but really how that hits the brain.

Ward center and causes cravings and upticks all the hunger signals, right. To tell us we want more and just to go get more and consume more calories. , disregulates, our ghrelin and our leptin and all the hormones that regulate our hunger so that we feel over hungry, but yet never full.

Whereas on apples, you know, you got the phytonutrients and you’ve got some minerals in there and you’ve got things that the body and the cells can actually use and it’s not just gonna be churn. Exactly. [00:06:00] Immediately into, you know, use this energy or let’s store it as fat. So , when you’re advocating for a type of diet, do you have a certain kind of style or something you gear women towards in terms of how they should eat?

Great question. I work with Mostly looking at low glycemic impact nutrition. So, we learned a long time ago, and is more and more in the research, is that whether the body is burning fat or storing fat is connected to blood sugar. And when our blood sugar is too high, And when our blood sugar is too low, our body will store fat.

So when I work with somebody, it’s really about looking at nutrition and how we pair foods together, eating throughout the day and regularly enough to keep our blood sugar stable within a, range, right? It’s not about [00:07:00] having no fluctuation, but it’s about managing those extremes. And so what we see is that when we eat protein fiber quality fat, our blood sugar takes care of itself.

So we don’t need to necessarily be connected to a constant glucose monitor in order to eat to optimize blood sugar balance. And we can sort of go down any path, but I think really understanding, even tying back to what we were saying before about the calories and the quality of those calories, it’s about the nutrition.

When we eat nutrition, to your point, the body knows what to do. And most of the time when somebody feels like I once felt, right, where you breathe and gain weight and you’re like, how is this possible? Right? It’s not your fault. It’s that all of these plans out there. have failed you because they are not designed to follow for the [00:08:00] long term.

They are not designed to remove fat. They are designed to make the number and the scale go down. And I think that’s also a really important distinction with the assumption that I have. That the goal is health, and that’s where, you know, I probably differ from a lot of the, you know, quote unquote influencers and people out there who were like, , make the number in the scale go down.

Well I’m coming from the place of health. And so if our health. is our objective, then what we want is to remove fat, not just make the number and the scale go down. And so a lot of times when we do the things that cut calories or cut out whole food groups or focus on just, we often say like garbage in, right?

Garbage out. It’s. the often nutrient deficient. Sometimes they have a lot of calories. Sometimes they have no [00:09:00] calories, right? But all of those things, the number on the scale might go down, but what we’re losing is water, muscle, and bone. And that is inherently the antithesis of health. And then, because the plan that we were following doesn’t allow for us to live our lives, right, and the number on the scale stops going down so we get frustrated, we go back to old eating habits.

But now we have less muscle on our body to be burning that extra fuel and we gain the weight back as fat. So over time, when we’ve done that yo yo thing, and I say we because I have been there. I have done them all. There isn’t a diet out there that I haven’t done. My family hasn’t done or we don’t know somebody who’s done it, And When we’re on that yo yo of gaining and losing, we might end up at the same number on the scale as we’ve been when we’re in that gain part, but by body composition, we can be fatter at that same number, and that’s where we [00:10:00] see health deteriorating. Yeah. I love how you explained it because, you know, muscle is this furnace that helps us burn fat.

And if we are on these yo yo diets and on these crazy diets that don’t allow us to maintain muscle and that’s the type of weight we are losing right in the end. Not only are we losing out on the health, but we’re going to be losing out on the future benefit of gaining muscle that impacts on burning fat later on when we’re off the diet.

Right? So, 100%. Love how you pointed that out. Yeah, I always say muscle dictates metabolism, right? If we want to burn more all the time, no matter what we’re doing, when we’re sitting on the couch watching Netflix, and when we’re, you know, running around living our lives. Sorry. I just lost you a bit because it was unstable.

So I heard muscle and then it went blank. So just start with muscle and go wherever you want to go. Muscle dictates [00:11:00] metabolism. So if we want to be burning more fuel all the time, whether we are sitting and watching Netflix or running around living our lives. We need more muscle and so if we are, especially for people who are working out and trying to build that muscle, but we’re not eating to support that we’re acting against ourselves inadvertently and so it comes to, you know, focusing on that protein, quality fat.

And fiber. I always say, if you’re like a note taker, write this one down or you might remember it, but protein and fiber at every meal makes you’re moving fat. No big deal. Protein and fiber at every meal makes you’re moving fat. No big deal. Protein is clean, lean protein. I don’t, whatever you want it to be.

Don’t eat what you don’t like, right? Fiber. Is vegetables and sometimes fruit are carbohydrates [00:12:00] fiber are carbohydrates we need, which are coming from vegetables and fruit. And then we need quality fat a couple of times a day. So think olive oil, avocado oil, avocados, nuts and seeds, right? We focus on that quality fat and then the things that most people think of as carbohydrates are actually grains and starches.

We want to think about those more like a condiment. And I know for a lot of people that’s like, wait, what? So think about other condiments that we use. Right. It’s like ketchup or mustard or salad dressing. It’s something to add flavor and interest, maybe texture, right? Our grains and starches can take that role.

And then in the balance of the protein fiber quality fat, we’re getting all of our food groups. We’re enjoying everything we’re eating and we can sustain this. But right now, the average [00:13:00] American eats more grain than an Olympic athlete is recommended to eat on race day. So we just have to shift the proportion of our nutrition.

Yeah. Well said. Well said. I want to pivot a little bit and have my listeners understand what’s been your journey as you’ve been learning about, you know, how dieting isn’t serving your body and you Can go into that as much as you want or not. And then how you came upon this information and stepped into this, health for you.

I don’t want to say weight, but health for you. Yeah. So my background is really in business and marketing. I kind of joke that I grew up the skinny one in a family of dieters and I was a dancer growing up. So when I started to gain weight. It was mostly between high school and college and [00:14:00] I think for, I was, because of my background as a dancer, I think I was hyper aware of it and hyper sensitive to it.

I was so aware of where my body was in space and how I moved that, it affected me dramatically because I had a whole identity around the body that all of a sudden, like no longer applied. Right. That’s it. And then because I had watched my family sort of diet, like I remember growing up, my dad at times had a picture of back in the days when.

You know, they would say like, put the picture at the body you want on the refrigerator, right? Like my dad had a picture of a man’s torso on our refrigerator, or we had whatever, you know, packaged meal program he was doing in the pantry or like [00:15:00] we always ate as a family. We always ate vegetables. It wasn’t like I grew up eating, you know, fast food, three meals a day.

And yet we also had a soda full or a refrigerator full of diet soda, separate from like the main refrigerator. There was a separate one that was like all soda and Snapple and like all the things. So when I started to gain weight, I was like, okay, well I know what to do, right? And I did the diet and admittedly I thought that I was going to like do one and tick the box.

And then of course that’s not what happened, right? Did everything right. It was this year. I’m trying this, you know, and then inevitably I’d be off of that because it wasn’t working and air quotes working. And then I would try the next one, you know, and I think I had the most [00:16:00] success with Weight Watchers, but I also gained the weight back still completely following Weight Watchers.

And so I realized now by definition, that means it didn’t work. Right. But I came to all of this because while I was on this whole rollercoaster of trying to figure out my weight and my health, I was also looking for something to do outside of my full time job. So that I could eventually retire early your work for myself and those two worlds collided When I learned this curriculum that I’ve now based my practice on so the curriculum is Based on a book by dr.

Sherry Lieberman called dare to lose and it is like Super 90s, early 2000s and it’s branding, right? Like it is certainly dated when you look at it now. But Dr. Sherry was really the first to talk about functional nutrition and the interplay between [00:17:00] nutrition and body composition and overall health.

And when I learned these things, it was like, Oh my God, that’s why all these things I didn’t work. And it was like, at first it was like this weight lifted. But then I was also admittedly sort of skeptical, right? Like, is this going to be different? Yeah. Right. Is it just gonna be the same thing? Yeah.

And there was this one woman who was telling her story of removing like 150 pounds. And admittedly, I don’t know anything she said after that because I was having a conversation with myself in my own head because I was like, that doesn’t make any sense to me. I’m looking at this woman and I can’t see where like 10 pounds could have been on her body.

And she’s telling me that the equivalent of another human was attached to her. And I had this moment with [00:18:00] myself that was like. Jennifer, they know something you don’t know. Because with everything you know, that doesn’t make sense. So I worked with a coach, I followed the curriculum, I learned the information, and it completely changed my life.

Like, the only thing that’s allowed me to say I’ve kicked my food issues. And so from there, I was like, everybody deserves this information. This is the nutrition education we’re all supposed to know and no one ever taught us. Right? And so I was like, okay, this is the thing I’m going to do outside of my full time job.

And I started digging into like, well, why isn’t this what we learned? How did all of those things come to be? And then as I was having challenges or my clients were having challenges, I was just an insatiable student. I went to every seminar and workshop and, you know course that I could get my hands on and I [00:19:00] learned and read every book and all of these things so that I could figure out why.

Because the big shift for me was changing all of these food decisions from being emotional to intellectual. So I remember distinctly I was working in a hedge fund and on the floor there was like a communal kitchen. And on Mondays. There was like a continental breakfast and on Fridays there was pizza and salad for lunch.

I remember distinctly a Monday morning walking into the kitchen to get my water, you know, and I was like, that little mini croissant is calling my name, right? Like people, it has a voice and it is calling my name and it is all I can think about. And I’m like, good God, what is wrong with me [00:20:00] that I can’t just walk in the kitchen and walk out and not have a whole dialogue around this.

Stupid croissant. And it hit me. I was like, wait a minute. I know why that’s appealing to me right now. Because my blood sugar is low. Because I’m hungry. What I actually need to do is eat the breakfast that I brought. Let me see how I feel after that and then decide if I want the croissant. And of course, I ate my breakfast and I didn’t eat the croissant.

And it was the end of the dialogue and the croissant no longer had a voice. And so it shifted these food decisions from being emotional to intellectual. I understood why. And that also shifted everything from me feeling like it’s like white knuckling it through life. Right? Like me versus the croissant to, Oh my God, wait, [00:21:00] this is not that big of a deal.

I totally get what’s happening. Yeah. And it was like this, right? And so that’s what I’ve done over and over with all of these things is how can we understand why this is what’s happening? Because as much as we all feel like we’re the only one, we’re not. There’s some things that are so inherently human.

Yeah. I loved a couple of facets about your story cause I could identify so much with it. I used to, I told my audience previous podcasts long ago, I used to have this QVC addiction and just loved their products and would order them and they would sit in boxes or they would sit unworn, you know? But I remember for a few years in a row, every.

January 3rd or 4th, they would sell the, Nutrisystem boxes, right? Food. And I would get the month’s supply. And then I’d look forward to the next month. And then they’ve [00:22:00] tasted good for a good 10 days. And it’s like, Oh, I can’t even eat this cardboard pizza by the end of the month. And this soup tastes terrible.

How are you going to stay on this? And I would drop the weight, right? Most of it being water weight and whoever knows what else, but. When I went off of that, you know, it’s like, Oh, how did I fail myself? Right. And you do think that you failed yourself because you’re no longer able to like eat these cardboard meals.

There’s just no way appealing. And then, you know, if you go out with friends and stuff, you don’t want to be bringing your own food. So it’s. Doesn’t ever teach you about the body and the hormonal response we have to food and go to pharmacy school. I never learned that as part of my curriculum.

It was just adopt whatever the governmental guidelines were. And we know how, you know, Missed. They have been in the past. And even, you know, get an apology, like, wow, sorry, that wasn’t correct for [00:23:00] what we should have been recommending. And then your journey also aligned a lot with mine through alcohols.

I realized I couldn’t help myself, got myself a coach. And then it was so life transforming to learn, Oh, the power’s not in the croissant and your story in the alcohol in my story. And how can you. Not do these things for emotional reasons and let your intellect, right? Start ruling and start deciding more for you rather than your emotional base.

And what are we trying to fill with the croissant or with the wine and stuff? And, for reasons like yourself, it’s like, wow, if that works so well in my life, I just want to broadcast this and help other women because we. See other friends, other family members, other people like us that have struggled with around food or around alcohol or whatever.

And coming to the realization like, okay, it’s enough is enough. If I’m not able to do it myself, [00:24:00] let me look at ways that I can get assistance so I can learn the right way and be the person I want to be. I love your story so much. Thank you. Yeah. So can you talk a little bit more about that, connection we have between our food and our mood, you know, that emotional connection that a lot of us feel like, Oh, I just want to be comforted by my alcohol.

I hear a lot, or I want to be comforted by the food a hundred percent. So first of all, there, the fact that we associate food with emotions is I’m struggling with what word to use because Of course we do. There isn’t a culture out there that doesn’t connect food to some sort of celebration or connection or [00:25:00] grief or, right?

Like we learn to gather around food in some way at some time in life. across the board. So to have those connections isn’t wrong. And again, it’s like, lift the weight. There’s nothing wrong with you, right? The weight off our shoulders. There’s nothing wrong with you. What is important is for us to understand the everyday connection between our food and our mood.

So. Even just thinking about having energy, right? Feeling in control. If we are low on blood sugar, we have zero self control, which is ironic because we’re told all the time to eat less. [00:26:00] move more to lose the weight. But like, how do we have self control if we’re trying to continuously not eat, right? And we have to have blood sugar in order to have the self control, right?

So it, we end up in the spiral sometimes. The other thing is going to the science side of stuff. Our mood is connected to neurotransmitters. The building blocks of neurotransmitters are amino acids. Amino acids are coming from the food that we eat. B vitamins. are critically important for mood and energy.

B vitamins come from the food that we eat. If we are always filling our systems with food like substances that are devoid of nutrition, it stands to reason that our brain and our mood and our [00:27:00] emotions cannot function properly. Because those are all connected. Interesting, also, on this topic of food and mood, is the vagus nerve.

And more and more, the vagus nerve is becoming part of conversations. For this point, though, here’s what I want everybody to know. So the vagus nerve is the literal nerve that connects the gut and the brain. Think of it like a five lane highway. Three of the lanes go gut to brain. Two lanes go brain to gut.

Which means We will never be able to out think the biology of what we are putting in our system. So if we aren’t getting Nutrients and nutrition. We will never [00:28:00] be able to will ourselves mentally or use our emotion or our aptitude or whatever it is to get there. And of course we struggle with mood when we don’t have the proper components to help us feel better.

And it will feel like this tug of war in this fight all the time. Doesn’t have to, but that’s why it feels the way it does sometimes. Yeah. Beautifully said, because if you don’t have the raw materials, you can’t make the final neurotransmitter. It’s going to help keep you calm, you know, relaxed, happy, all of that.

And that great brain gut connection is so important and it’s called the second brain for a reason, right? It signals to us. a lot of how we’re feeling and emotional. And if we don’t learn how to control that by what we select to put into our mouth, right. We will feel like we’re at, it’s controlling us, right.

Our emotions are [00:29:00] controlling us rather than us controlling them. Yeah. I have a podcast about willpower and how that’s just. Limited won’t get you to your goals. Most of the time you need brain power and then really figuring out how your body works. So beautiful discussion on how that all comes together.

Now I know you and I are in the same category in the same camp about this. Measurement that a lot of people talk about, and that’s the body mass index. I do not think this is an accurate measurement of health. I know it’s something that’s used out there in practice, but I’d love your thoughts around why body mass indexes or BMI is not a great measure of how healthy we are.

Yeah, so I, first of all, BMI is BS. That is my stance, full stop, right? And the reason being is that BMI is looking at height and weight. And if you have a really [00:30:00] advanced calculator, it’ll ask your age, right? Like if your doctor is really on top of their game, they’re going to put you in a category by age, height, and weight.

But here’s the problem. If someone is 5’7 and 170 pounds of muscle, somebody else is 5’7 and 170 pounds of fat, their health outcomes are going to be very different. Their BMI will be exactly the same. And by the way, the total number on the scale, yes, it also includes your bones and water and your brain and all of your organs and all these other things.

So it’s really important to understand that total number on the scale is not our best barometer. Can you start up again with the scale is not a best barometer because it just cut out again, right? When you ended a sentence and I forget what that sentence, I know it’s [00:31:00] my, instability. Oh, so sorry.

And I’m probably the only one that’s okay. Go ahead. Yeah. So the scale is not our best barometer because it includes all these other things, right? Our bones, our organs, water, blood, right? All of these other things are included in that total number. Now, I have too many things going through my head at once.

I do want to say, so I, in researching an episode that I did about BMI, I went digging to figure out where did this metric even come from? Like, who started this and why did we start using it? So it turns out, it was discovered, it was like the mid 1800s. Like 1830, 1850, something like that. And it was by this guy who was looking at populations over time.

So it was designed to look at [00:32:00] all the people who live in North America over decades or centuries compared to all the people who live, you know, in Europe over decades and centuries to compare populations. It was never. Designed for individual measure. And then it was adopted by our medical system to make it easier for doctors to have conversations with patients about weight.

So forgive my soapbox and bias that is about to come out, but like, I’m sorry. I think it’s such a travesty that instead of better educating, Our physicians and how to have these conversations. We gave them a metric that was completely inappropriate for its use. And so let’s also recognize that there are zero, [00:33:00] zero diseases that only exist in bigger bodies.

So BMI is not an indicator. And I would encourage you push back on your doctor, know your own numbers. And when you show up to your doctor, tell them to document your body fat percentage that you got at home from your scale and ask them to at least just put it in your chart because we have to start reclaiming that, right?

So body fat percent is really a better metric. You can use like, There are DEXA scans and there are, you know, like the little calipers, remember in the eighties and nineties at the gym where you would like pinch your side. So there are a number of ways that can be used to measure body fat [00:34:00] percentage and they all even scales, right?

Like a lot of scales. that people can have at home can measure body fat percentage. Now, number one, make sure that it’s giving you body fat percent and not BMI. And then number two, because all of these ways of measuring it have degrees of error, sometimes human error, sometimes just, you know, depending on how it measures.

There are some that go like in your hands versus the scale that you stand on, right? So as long as you’re looking at it in terms of the change, it’s not going to change. Rather than staking your life on the absolute number, I think we’ll be in a really good place. Yeah. And I could see how we’re moving towards that now.

I mean, yeah, I got my body body composition done and I did it with an in body scanner and you can find places that carry these now and just pay the nominal fee [00:35:00] just to get your body tested. It takes really typically have them now. So like get that info from your gym and then bring it to your physician.

Mhm. Or monitor yourself too, right? Yeah. No over time. Cause that is certainly a better predictor of your health than the scale. And as we’re saying here, body mass index. So I know that you talk about alcohol as well. And I would just love to pivot to talking about your views and your philosophy on alcohol, how it affects the waistline and how it affects our overall health.

Yeah. So I wanna preface this by saying two things. Number one, you do you, and as long as you’re making choices intentionally and with control in your life, you do you. The second piece of that is we get healthier each day. We [00:36:00] keep alcohol away. Full stop.

It is a toxin. It is a toxin to the body. It is a toxin to the brain. And so. It doesn’t serve our health. Now everybody’s gonna come at me and be like, but what about red wine and all the things? Okay, so the ingredient in red wine is called resveratrol. The amount of resveratrol that is in red wine, by just drinking some red wine, is so small that to end up at a therapeutic dosage, of resveratrol, you have to drink cases and cases of red wine a day.

And by that point, right, the issue from the alcohol is far outweighing the benefit of the resveratrol. So having said all of that, I do [00:37:00] have a drink on occasion. Everybody is going to make the choices that work for them. And like I said, it’s making the choices intentionally and with understanding. So I remember always being told the issue with alcohol and your weight are the empty calories or the issue with alcohol and your weight or the mixers and the sugar, or the issue with alcohol and your weight is the mixers, the sugar, and then all the eating that happens after the fact.

Right, whether it’s later that night or the next day when you’re hungover, whatever it is. What I learned is that it’s really about the liver. So the liver is responsible for detoxification. It does a lot of things, but its primary role is in detoxification. The liver missed the multitasking memo. The liver can only do one thing at a time.[00:38:00] 

It can only detoxify one thing at a time. And so it has to prioritize based on that which is the most toxic. Okay, so the liver also has to process fat and sugar, but it knows what to do with those. While they’re to some degree toxic and the liver has to process them, they’re lower on the totem pole. Okay.

right? You know what’s number one on that list? Alcohol, right? We call it intoxicated. It’s a toxin. So until the liver is able to process all of that alcohol out of your system, it will not ever get to the food that you’re eating or the other toxins. That are in your life, like your couch off gassing or the air we breathe or toxins in the products that we use, right?

That’s not to scare everybody, right? The point is [00:39:00] we’re getting a lot of toxins from a lot of places living our daily lives. When we drink the alcohol, we trump all of that and add a whole other layer for the body to deal with. So, knowing that, then you choose. Right? And you can decide. Does this serve me?

Does this not serve me? Right? I’m not, I don’t use words like good or bad, on or off, right? They’re very black and white things. To me, there are choices that are going to move us closer to our goals or further from our goals or move us faster toward our goals or slower toward our goals. But they’re all just choices and there’s nothing wrong with you, whatever you choose.

I love that. That’s the same philosophy. I take that binary thinking, right? You got to do all or nothing. And you know, maybe there are some people that need to take that approach, right? Based on past [00:40:00] and what’s been going on for them with alcohol and all of that. But you are so right in that. It does.

The liver does prioritize it. It’s concentration dependent, right? Small amounts of alcohol can cause lots of harm to the body. Whereas we could put in a ton of sugar and we’re not dying, right? The body, for the most part, if we have an active functioning pancreas, we’ll just release more insulin and then the body knows how to take care of that.

But it doesn’t have that compensatory mechanism outside of the liver. The liver is the thing that’s going to detoxify the alcohol. And so if liver’s like, okay, switch over. Going to be detoxifying this alcohol. And then what is happens to the rest of the processes, right? We might go to bed. So the liver slowed overnight.

It’s not detoxifying anything. It’s not breaking down anything that sugar that, you know, could be being broken down now gets stored as fat, right? So it does affect our waistlines, even a few drinks. And it’s not to say be all or nothing. If you’re not in that [00:41:00] category, that has to be. But just being intentional about your choices and knowing, you know, what exactly serves you and what doesn’t.

And that changes over time, especially as 100%. And thinking about it too, right? Even what you were saying about like the other things that happen in the body, well, the other things that happen when we drink alcohol, we, our sleep is impaired. Even if it feels like we’ve slept a long time, right? We call it passed out, right?

restorative sleep. And then lack of sleep turns into a whole other. Pan of worms of impact on the body. So again, it’s just choices and just considering that and saying, here’s what’s going to serve me now. Absolutely. Absolutely. Jen, this discussion has been so amazing. I loved having your perspective and your take on a lot of this information.

Thank you for coming on the podcast, but before we go, tell my listeners where they can find you, how they can work with you. Yeah, [00:42:00] absolutely. First of all, thank you for having me. I’ve loved this chat. Website is a salad with a side of fries. com. I have a little freebie for you there called it’s not what to eat.

It’s how to eat. So you can go download that. And then of course my podcast is salad with a side of fries. So wherever you’re listening now, you can find us there. All social media I am @JenTrepeck. Wonderful. Thank you so much, Jen. Thank you.

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