Ep #173: You Are in Charge of Yourself with Anna

By: Dr. Sherry Price

Health, Habits, and Epic Living with Dr. Sherry Price | You Are in Charge of Yourself with Anna

Ready to get healthy, fit and fabulous in 2024? If so, this podcast episode is for you!

Today, I have the pleasure of interviewing Anna, who was part of the initial launch of my Tone in 10 program

Anna goes back to how we met, what life was like then and the things she wasn’t happy with.

She felt like something was off and wanted to drink less.  She also wanted to get rid of some belly fat, tone up, and improve her relationship with her husband. 

Through the work she did in EpicYOU and Tone in 10, her life completed turned around.  She regained peace, health, confidence and experiences more happiness in her marriage as a result.  She wanted to come on the podcast to let others know that if she can do it, so can you.

It’s not too late.
It doesn’t matter your age.
You just have to get out of your own way and invest in yourself.

Anna was able to create and keep new habits and routines that allow her be the woman she has always wanted to be.

Listen in to hear about Anna’s journey, how she now feels more in control of who she is, and discover the transformative impact Tone in 10 can have on your own life.

 

What You’ll Learn in this Episode:

  • What Anna learned through the Tone in 10 program
  • What tools Anna used to reshape her health and habits to change her body composition
  • How little changes made a huge difference in her relationship with herself and her husband

 

Featured on the Show:

 

Welcome to the Health, Habits, and Epic Living podcast. I’m your host, Dr. Sherry Price. The goal of this podcast is to educate and enable empowered women to take the next steps towards achieving their health, wellness, and lifestyle goals. Let’s get started.

Welcome back to the show my friend. Today I have a very special guest and this guest, Anna, has been a client of mine. We’ve worked together in EpicYOU as you will hear in this interview as well as she was part of the first and initial launch of Tone in 10. And it’s not even that I brought her onto the show, she wanted to come on the podcast because she was so excited about all the changes that drinking less and then the changes that she learned through Tone in 10 has really made a tremendous impact on how she feels, on her health, on her relationship with her husband.

And I just want you to hear it from her. I think there’s so much power in hearing the story of other women and how they conquer certain things in their life, especially when they take the time to invest in themselves and when they really feel the call to make the change. And as we’re starting off a new year, looking at new habits, I want you to listen to some of the key principles in her journey, what has made her successful. And how that really has impacted her life on a grander scale.

I think a lot of times we pooh, pooh these small changes because we’re like, “Really, is that going to really change anything?” But you’ll hear from Anna’s story that these small changes did add up to make a tremendous impact in her life. I also love the value that she talks about, that she received through the program, through the coaching, through the community that is offered. It’s such a non-judgmental space for you to be able to explore exactly what is going on in your life, particularly matters that are really close and feel vulnerable to share with others.

And so as we’re getting ready here at Team EpicYOU to launch Tone in 10, if you are interested in joining us and have questions, feel free to reach out to me. You can reach out to me by email at sherry@epicyou.com. I’d be happy to address any questions to make sure that this program would be the right fit for you. And then I also wanted to allow Anna to come on and talk about her experience of the program and how she has benefited from the materials provided in the program. So without further ado, here is my conversation with Anna.

Sherry: Well, I am super excited, ladies, to bring Anna to you today. So excited because we met a little bit ago and I have seen some very big changes in her life. And she is willing to come on, talk about those changes, what she’s experienced. And really wanted to inspire all of you with her story about the transformation that you can get. And so without further ado, welcome Anna.

Anna: Hello, I’m so happy to be here.

Sherry: So I know we met through the podcast. You started listening to the podcast. So I’d like you just to bring the listeners along on your journey. When we first met, when you first started tuning in, what was your life like then? What were you experiencing? What were you not happy with? Can you give us a picture of where you were at, at that part of your journey?

Anna: Sure. I think pretty much anyone who comes up with Drink Less Lifestyle when they’re searching on podcasts probably is having some thoughts about their own drinking. I was always a drinker. I always drank wine, drank wine often. I would say when I turned 40, it was just really regular wine every night. And then when I was about, I think, 57 I lost my parents, one year my dad and the next year, my mom and then COVID hit. And COVID as a lot of people say, the drinking really ramped up and I also think I was very depressed at losing my parents.

And started drinking so much that I wasn’t remembering conversations. I’ve had family members tell me they were worried about me, but I never wanted to stop drinking. I liked being a drinker. I just didn’t like that it had gotten to the point where I wasn’t remembering conversations. I would be getting in fights with my husband because when I would start drinking, I would start picking on him. And I was going on a six hour road trip to see my girlfriend and I just started searching podcasts about drinking less.

And I listened to one, I don’t even remember what it was, but it just didn’t resonate with me. And then I clicked on yours and I was just blown away at the similarities and your honesty of drinking a bottle of wine a night. I mean, clearly I was there and you just had what I wanted. You had, I didn’t want to go to AA. I just wanted to drink like a normal person. And so I was just hooked. I was just so hooked on those podcasts. I just listened for six hours straight in the car, got to my friend who I drink with and I said, “You’re not going to believe this. I’ve found my answer.”

And I think I’ve told you this story once, where I had her, “You’ll have to listen to her podcast.” And she listened to the one and you were relating, if someone asked you if you wanted a cigarette and you didn’t want one, you would say, “No, thank you.” If someone offered you heroin and you didn’t do heroin, you would say, “No, thank you.”

And we kind of laugh because she was like, “Well, you don’t smoke and you don’t do heroin, but if I offered you wine you would not say, “No, thank you”, you would say, “Yes, please.”” And back then I didn’t understand that I could ever get to a place that would make sense that I just wouldn’t want it. It just wasn’t something I believed then. So I kind of want to go back and listen to that one again and see how it feels to me now, now that I don’t drink all the time.

Sherry: And so it sounds like your drinking was pretty frequent when we first met, when you first discovered the podcast?

Anna: Totally. I mean to the point where I started buying boxed wine because I was feeling guilty about the environment, that I was throwing so many bottles away. And I didn’t want my husband to see quite how much I was drinking. And the price, when you think about if you’re drinking a bottle and a half of wine a night and you want, I don’t know, a $10 bottle is reasonable, not too expensive, not too cheap. I was probably spending $100 a week on wine.

And it was just getting embarrassing to look in the recycle bin. Then my life was just, I was just feeling really empty in a lot of ways. I just thought that, I thought I needed it every day. I thought I deserved it every day. And I just did it every day, every day, every day.

Sherry: Yeah. That’s a common place we find ourselves in. It’s kind of you start thinking, how did you get here and how long is this going to go on? So I hear this from women a lot. They’re just like, “I just want it to end, but I don’t know if I really want to completely break up with alcohol.” And I know that’s the space you were in. So then you took the next step in your journey, which was to sign up for EpicYOU. And so I’d love for you to share, do you remember what inspired you to sign up and why and what you wanted to get out of the program and all of that?

Anna: Yes, I remember very clearly I had been toying with the idea of joining. And I had this attitude of, well, I’m just going to do it for one month, one month. I’m not going to join something that I’m never going to be able to end my subscription or whatever. But I still wasn’t willing to put the money behind it. I was like, “No.” Even though I was spending at least that amount of money on wine. And I’d been to therapy in the past, which is as expensive, if not more.

And I remember my husband, somehow it came up that he had donated this money to the church, I don’t even remember what it was. But I remember walking away from that, going, “He’s donating money to church, which is great. Fine. That’s fine.” But I had this sinking feeling that I wasn’t investing in myself. If I donate money to charities and things that people need, I said to myself, “This is something I need.” It makes me almost cry talking about it because we donate money. We’re very generous people. I didn’t give myself the privilege of spending it on myself.

And it was kind of a light bulb moment that I decided I deserved it and needed it and was in a place where I just wanted to meet you. I remember the first time meeting you, I was like, “Oh my God, I’m meeting Sherry Price.” I was so excited because your podcasts were everything to me. They were my saving grace for a long time, I flew through them. So I do remember deciding that I was worth the investment.

Sherry: So glad you did because of all the changes you’ve experienced, which we will get into for sure. But I find that a barrier is investing in yourself or carving out the time for yourself and signing up for something, to get the benefit from it. When you joined, what was that like? Were you scared to join? Were you feeling overwhelmed? How was that experience?

Anna: I think for me, I’m a pretty outgoing person, so I think I was more excited. I know some people are much shyer than I am. I was excited and pretty much was an open book. I loved the connection with the women. You say on the podcast a lot that we don’t really talk about drinking very much and we really don’t. I mean, it was so much more like what’s going on in your life. It might be, I drank too much yesterday. Why do you think? And talking and just it became the girls club for me.

And I think I’ve said this to you before at one of our meetings of just having a place where you could be so honest that you feel so not judged. It was my special time. It was my me time to just talk about what was going on with me, relating to other women. They were all, like you say, we’re all successful hard working women, that we have the secret. And just talking about it and sharing it makes it so much less scary to just say, “You drink too much too. I drink too much too.”

And just kind of having each other’s back. I remember there was one woman in the group that we would just instant message each other and say, “Tonight, I want to tell you I’m not drinking tonight.” And then it’s that little bit of someone being accountable too is good. It was just, it’s a great group of women.

Sherry: Yeah, they are, they certainly are. And it’s a special place like you said. It’s a special time to get honest because sometimes we do feel judged by our spouse. We feel judged that maybe it might be inappropriate to be open and honest with our kids depending on their ages. And even our parents, if we have them with us, it might be embarrassing or we just might feel awkward or how to bring it up with friends and how to ask for support in the right way.

So I think it’s such a beautiful space that we can be totally open with what we’re thinking, how we’re feeling, where alcohol does serve us, where alcohol doesn’t serve us, how we want it to morph and change. And to get there, not just to talk about it, but to actually have actionable steps to get there. So I know the listeners are probably waiting, what are the changes you’ve experienced? So before we go to the next program that you joined. What are some of the experiences and things you learned and changes in your own life that you found through joining EpicYOU?

Anna: I mostly learned that I don’t crave it. I thought I would crave it. But the biggest change I think for me, there were two light bulb moments that you had said to me that just clicked for me. One was talking about my relationship not going well. And just I went for a walk with my husband one night and I said, “I don’t think we’re happy.” And he looked really sad. And I was talking to you about it.

And through our conversation, I realized that you basically said it to me and oh, my God, it was so true, that I was putting so much pressure on my husband to give me the things that I got from my parents, that I don’t have anymore. And I was just mad all the time, but I was taking it out on him. And just having that revelation that I was doing that, I didn’t even realize I was doing it, was a huge change. Because I’m not drinking every night anymore, we go on a walk every night and we talk.

And we just get along so much better because we were honestly to the point where we were just living parallel lives in our house. So I just came home and had my wine. He read his book. We went to bed. But I knew I loved him. I knew he loved me. I knew we had so much good that could come out of our relationship. I just wasn’t open to seeing it.

And the other thing you said to me once was, I was going on about how I was a stay at home mom and I gave to people all the time, and I’m just so unhappy because my parents are gone. And you said to me something along the lines of, in a very nice way, “Okay, you’ve talked a lot about who you were, but you don’t talk a lot about who you want to be. Who do you want to be?” And that was another, I guess I’ll think about that. But a lot of our talk was about our future selves in the program, about, think about who you want to be.

And that was another huge, huge light bulb moment for me, who do I want to be? I want to be a great mom. I want to have a good relationship with my husband. I love my job. I love where I live. I want to love the things that I love. I have everything the same. I have the same job. I have the same husband. I have the same house. I have the same family. And I’m so grateful now because I’m focusing on who I want to be. I’m starting to do crafts again. You just nailed it when you said something, we talk a lot about future self and who do I want to be and that’s what I’m working on, becoming me, the me I want to do.

Sherry: I remember that time so well because it was right when the Barbie movie came out and you had tie dyed your shirts and spray painted all of that. And went and posted that inside the group and on your Facebook page and then I went and saw the Barbie movie. And I just said at one of the calls, “You’re talking a lot about your past but there’s this Barbie land. We could create Barbie land.” And so I urged you to create Anna land, create Anna land. What does that look like for you? Because that’s much more exciting.

We can’t change the past and there are tools that we can use to heal. I know you were still in pain a lot from grieving with the loss of your parents. And turning to alcohol for that is not going to ever solve that grief or process that grief. It’s actually going to just keep suppressing the grief where we just keep recycling it and recycling it and feeling it over and over again. So talking through those tools to actually process that grief out of your body little by little. Maybe it never goes away, but at least making it smaller and smaller over time.

And then noticing, if you are taking out that anger on others and what impact that’s having on that relationship. So having you look at wow, you get to really recreate the land that you want to live in. And you can choose the same people in it or you can choose to swap people out. So I think that’s a beautiful gift to re-decide, do I want to commit? And am I committed to this relationship, am I committed? And how am I showing up in my marriage and how am showing up for my kids?

And just really doing that honest work, which is hard, not a lot of people want to do it. We’d just rather just ignore it, thinking it’ll just get better on its own. And as we know, it doesn’t get better on its own. So I’m very excited that you wanted to do this work and you were open to receiving the coaching and open to thinking about things differently and really diving in to say, “Okay, where is my pain and anger coming from?” And that’s huge.

Anna: Right, yeah, exactly. And then you also know about the fear, I have a lot of young friends and we go out a lot. And I had so much fear of not being a big drinker with them. And I told you the story about my young friend. Once he saw I wasn’t drinking all the time. He said, “Do you want to go to the gym together this week?” And the fear I had, I think you get so held back by fear of what you think, how something’s going to go. And that fear is not really founded.

It usually isn’t as bad as you think it’s going to be. And like you said, people, if they love you, they love you. And if you are just their drinking buddy, then maybe they’re not your really, really good friend. It’s hard, you said it over and over and over, but it’s really difficult to believe it until you try it.

Sherry: Yeah. It’s got to be your experience in order for it to really sink in. That’s how I find when I listen to things and podcasts, it’s not till I’m walking through those doors and I’m actually experiencing it that I realize the aha moments that come with that. So now I want to pivot and talk about, you were loving, EpicYOU and then for the first time I was launching Tone in 10. And you’re part of that initial group. And you just jumped on board. And I love why you jumped on board, I remember when you was calling that out on EpicYOU. It was so funny on one of our calls.

But tell us about Tone in 10, what have you learned through that process? What are the changes you’ve got through that process of joining that program?

Anna: So I did all the calculations in my head. Okay, so financially, it’s pretty much awash because there was a discount because it was your opening, trying Tone in 10. And I remember saying to you, “I just kind of want a kick in the ass. I love this group and I love that if we screw up, we can come to the call and we don’t beat each other up.” And which is great, I mean you’ve got to move on, if you make a mistake you have to move on. It’s the way it should be.

But I just was ready for, I think because of you, I started listening to a lot of podcasts on health and because I’m 61, I’m starting to care more and more about my health. I’m starting to realize that it’s not something, I can’t take it for granted that I’m going to pop out of bed every day. And so what I really liked was that it was one week we were going to focus on one thing and they would build on each other. It wasn’t one week we do this and then you’re done. And then one week you do this and you’re done.

It was, okay, these are the little stepping stones to get us to a more fit, for me, a more fit 61 year old. And I had always been a runner and then I hurt my knee and I couldn’t run and then I just didn’t do anything. So then the first week was strength training. So my husband has all these weights. I started waking up in the morning and doing weights that I was telling someone in the group about. I did it in my pajamas. I was just, get up and do it, no excuses.

And I’ve been still doing that and that was week one and we’re in week eight or nine right now. So I’ve been consistently doing that the whole time. Then another week was the protein piece. Consistently, I was just telling someone at work today that I can’t get over how easy the protein has been. I didn’t think I could eat protein. I’m not a big meat eater. I make this amazing tuna every day. I make my turkey chili.

Sherry: Yes. And let’s talk about how many grams of protein you get in that tuna because I was impressed.

Anna: I’m going to Costco Saturday, it’s the Kirkland brand, white albacore in water, 190 calories, 42 grams of protein.

Sherry: That’s awesome. That is awesome.

Anna: That’s amazing. So yes, and I don’t need bread with it. I put red onion and celery and dill and pepper and it’s so good. I love it. So I think last week was the alcohol or this week’s the alcohol, I’m getting confused. So every week it’s been something different. My biggest takeaways were the protein and the building muscle. And so many links to great podcasts that have me, I always thought I wanted to stop drinking to lose weight and just to not be someone who was embarrassed the next day. But now I just want to be healthier. So I think Tone in 10 really has me focused on taking care of my body.

Sherry: When you started that, I was impressed because you would cut down on drinking with EpicYOU, but you still had fear about really cutting down. And I think you went cold turkey, if I’m not mistaken where you’re like, “I’m cutting it out for a couple of days or couple of weeks”, was it? And so talk about that journey and where you’re at and how you feel towards alcohol now, because I think that’s impressive.

Anna: Okay. So when I joined EpicYOU, I think you said in one of the paperwork that you have, it was talking about, you should have some drink less days. And I just wasn’t about it. I was like, “I’ll cut down to a glass of wine.” But I don’t think I had a day without drinking in at least 10 years.

Sherry: Yeah. And just to clarify, you said drink less days, but it’s really alcohol free days. So just days where we don’t drink, yeah.

Anna: Right. So I decided when I joined Tone in 10 that I wanted to not drink. I said I was going to do it the whole 10 weeks. I made it five weeks. I did it for five without a drop of alcohol. That is amazing because it wasn’t hard. I want to tell your viewers, I know it’s probably hard to believe, it was not hard. It was crazy to me. I remember saying that to you, I was like, “This is blowing my mind.” And then one night my husband and I were going out to dinner and we went to this restaurant that was BYOB. And I had decided that night that I wanted a glass of red wine.

I’m not really a big red wine drinker, but I was like, “I want to have a glass of red wine tonight.” And I was very conscious of the choice. And we got to the restaurant and I didn’t realize it was BYOB. And my husband, who clearly knows this is working because he was the one, “Do you want to go get a bottle of wine?” I thought he would say, “Oh, thank God there’s no wine here. She’s been doing so good.” But he didn’t, he said, “Do you want to go get a bottle of wine?” And I said, “No, that’s fine.”

Again, anybody who can relate to me would say, “No way was I going to go out to an Italian restaurant and have water.” But I did, and I swear to God it wasn’t hard. Then after we stopped, and he said, “You said you really wanted to have a glass of red wine tonight, stop and had two glasses out of the bottle.” And so anyway I do, to your point, I do think taking that chunk of time off was more important than I realized it was going to be because it really made me see how much I don’t need it and how much more I get out of my life when I’m not drinking.

And I think that before I had joined Tone in 10, I didn’t ever quite believe that it was going to be easy because I was still drinking pretty regularly. I hadn’t taken enough time off to actually say to my husband, “Do you want to go for a walk tonight.” Me knowing what’s going on the news better than him because I’m more focused. Just that was a big game changer taking that time off for sure.

Sherry: Yeah. And that was, I remember that because the first week you posted in our Facebook group was like, “My friend invited me to the gym. How amazing is this?” So you make a commitment to something to yourself. And it’s almost like the universe responds. If you decide I want to stop drinking or cut back on drinking  it’s like the teacher arrives. And when you take that stance and you were firm, you’re like, “I’m joining Tone in 10. Sorry, ladies, I love you guys. Maybe I’ll be back in EpicYOU, but Tone in 10 is where I feel aligned.”

And you did it and you took that stance and then you said to me, “I don’t want to drink. I don’t want to drink. Maybe for the whole duration of the program. I don’t know. That’s what I’m just going to try to go for, but I just don’t want to drink.” And then you told your friend, your younger friend, and he’s making different arrangements to still hang out with you that aligned with your goals. So now you’re both getting healthier and doing healthier things together and your relationship just pivots a bit and you find other activities to do together that are still fun and enjoyable.

And even when you couldn’t move because you’re doing upper body strength a lot because I know you have the problem with the knee and stuff but you found a way to do it. And I know a lot of people will just keep justifying or putting it off because my knee hurts or this is not the good time or it’s out of whack. But you’re like, “No, the excuses stop now. They stop here and I’m going all in on myself.” And I just loved that vigor that you had and you just decided.

Anna: And I hate to put the dollar sign on anything, but I’m good with my money. I don’t have a ton of money. But it is such a reasonable expense if you work the program. I’m not going to put my money in something and then just not do it. I mean, that’s just stupid to me. So there is something about making a bit of a financial commitment and the time commitment, having the meetings with you. If you’re going to do it, do it. I do think it was good for me because it was something, it wasn’t exorbitant. I was able to do it.

Like I said, it’s probably awash with the amount of alcohol I was drinking. My new thing, Sherry is Tone in 10 is what, we’re in week eight, I think so we have a couple more weeks left. And I’m like, “Oh my God. What am I going to do? Do I go back to EpicYOU?” I don’t really think I need to, but I’m going to miss everybody. I’m already anticipating if I’m going to want to go back just for the connection with everybody.

But I also want your viewers to know that you don’t sign up and it’s forever. I do feel like I’m very close to a place, I mean, obviously I’m going to continue to grow. I still have a lot of growing to do, but I feel so much more in charge of myself and control over who I want to be. I feel like I have the power to be who I want to be, which is fabulous.

Sherry: Yeah, I love that. I love that. And it’s not a program that you hopefully don’t need forever. It’s not designed that way. But it’s really to be there for empowering yourself, learning the tools, mastering those tools, and then able to fly the nest and go out and put those into practice. And some of them will become more of a daily or weekly practice and some of them you’ll be like, “Well, I needed that for a timeframe and I don’t need it anymore so therefore I don’t need that tool.”

Anna: I just want to say this because it is appropriate to what you just said. I remember listening to the Lizzie podcast and I was so ready. I was ready to attack, going, “Okay, how come she’s been in EpicYOU for over a year? I want to know. So it must not be working if she’s still in it and it’s been over a year.” And then when I listened to the podcast, I was like, “Okay, well she just clearly loves it.” She said, “You’re like her Tony Robbins”, or something like that she referred to you as. Whatever she said, I remember thinking, okay, that makes total sense. This is her outlet. This is what she wants in her life.

Sherry: Yeah. And if you keep growing, you want to stay, for a lot of people. Or there could be a time where you want to take a break and then you come back. I designed it, and it’s a program that is reasonably priced so you can stay as long as you want, take breaks, come back if you need to tone up or whatever. But yeah, I really think it’s an individual decision about how people get motivated, how they stay on track, if they want a coach in their corner all the time. Yeah, so totally individualized.

Talk about more of the benefits. So here’s what I heard. I heard your relationship now with your husband has greatly improved. The anger has subsided. You feel that you’re not just living parallel lives as roommates anymore, but you’re actually connected and enjoying each other again. Would that be fair to say?

Anna: 100%, it’s a different relationship. It’s amazing. I mean, we’re both still working. We’re busy. He’s very nerdy and he talks and I don’t always listen, but overall we have our dates. We go for a walk every night. It’s our new routine. Instead of me having wine, we go for a walk. We talk. We watch TV together. I used to go on vacation with just my girlfriend all the time, and this year, we already plan to go on vacation together. It’s been really, really life changing in that area.

Sherry: And then you mentioned a few other areas before we hit record, was how you feel inside your body right now. Can you talk towards that?

Anna: So I’m always complaining that I have the 61 year old belly. And I was telling you that I had the same clothes, I was to the point where I was just throwing on clothes in the morning. Every morning was just, okay, I felt ugly and I never thought of myself as ugly. I always thought I was cute, but I just wasn’t feeling good about myself. And now I don’t think I’ve even changed my weight that much. But I think doing the strength training and eating the protein has done something to the way I feel about myself.

I do feel, because I’ve been doing mostly upper body, I feel like my shirts are a little bit looser up around my boobs and my shoulders. And I just care more about what I look like, which is like I said, the same clothes, but I’m going in my closet and I’m ironing something now. Whereas before, if it had to be ironed, it wasn’t getting worn. And I just feel brighter. I feel like my eyes are brighter, I feel bouncier. I care about my insides. I care about my brain and my heart and my lungs and my stomach. I think about all the inside of me now more than I ever did before.

Sherry: It’s beautiful, because even watching your transformation over the months that we’ve been together, I just noticed an improvement in your skin and the vitality you have because we’re oftentimes on camera. And you’re just glowing differently and shining brighter. And I think that’s a testament to how you feel inside and taking care and doing the care measures that make us feel more alive, more energetic and feel like we have the energy to iron the clothes and that we’re worth it.

So I love that you brought those little details because I think sometimes we think those little details aren’t important, especially when we don’t have them. We’re like, “Yeah, whatever, just the comfy pants or this or that.” But when we get that spark back or when we get more energetic and we’re putting in a little more effort and it’s not necessarily vanity, but it’s just to say I’m worthy, I deserve this. And this makes me feel good. And I think those little things are very important and we shouldn’t be just saying that they’re not.

Anna: Well, it’s funny because now that my husband and I are getting along so much better. So I’ve been getting up earlier and doing my puzzles on my phone and then I do my little exercise for my half hour exercise. But he hears me move and he brings me up a cup of coffee and it’s just very cute that he’s listening for me and then he brings me my coffee. And then before I leave for work he always goes, “Wait, wait. Can I see the fashion show today?” And he wants me to show him what I’m wearing and I’m like, “It’s nothing special today, honey.” But it’s just little things like that, I mean that’s a nice way to start your day.

Sherry: That’s adorable. And to know that you have that spark into your 60s and into the later years of marriage. That’s just, I think we all want that for our marriage so I think that’s so beautiful.

Anna: Right, it is. And I want to say one more thing. I don’t know if you have any other questions for me, but in regards to the podcast, anyone who’s a new listener, I really recommend they go back and listen to the beginning. Because I think your transformation has been more health related because that’s how you’ve transformed from drinking your bottle of wine a night. And that’s how you have inspired me with so much learning about my body and how to make it healthier.

But if someone is just finding you, I think that they’re finding you because they searched on drink less. And I want them to go back and listen from the beginning so they can see the transformation. Because the last couple of times, I’m like, “I hope new people are going to go back and listen to the old episodes because I don’t want them to think this doesn’t suit them.” Do you know what I mean?

Sherry: Yeah, because it’s a whole component. Drinking is one part of our health and I’m exploring other parts of the body and health and how to get healthy because it’s not just a siloed thing. We can think, we can berate ourselves about the alcohol. We can berate ourselves about the alcohol, but sometimes we have to turn to the alcohol when other things aren’t right because that’s the only way we feel relief or better. But our hormones could be off or the way we’re eating could be off. That creates more sugar cravings and of course, alcohol is full of sugar.

So I love that you said that to direct people to episodes going back to where they are at because you want to find out where you’re at in this journey. And we all have different points in our journey. And so finding those episodes that really relate to where you’re at in your journey. Well, Anna, it’s been so great having you on this podcast.

Thank you so much for sharing it in the way you experienced this and sharing your transformation and your journey from drinking a lot more than you wanted to now being at this place where you barely desire it. And you can’t even believe that. I say, “I’m still surprised five years out that I have little desire for alcohol.” And it just blows my mind because it used to be such a big part of my life, huge part of my life and huge part of my identity. And now to have that shift, it’s kind of like you almost can’t explain it and you can’t even realize how easy it was to get here if you just worked at it a bit more.

Anna: Right. And I do think I need to keep, I want to keep working. I still on the weekends drink probably a little more than I’d like, but for me, that’s still perfect right now. I love that I don’t desire it all week and then I go out and have a few drinks with my friends. That’s kind of what I was going for and we all have different goals.

Sherry: Absolutely. So as we close up, are there any tips you would offer to our listeners, any guidance that you would want to give them as we wrap up today?

Anna: Again, I really, I’m the one who, I really wanted to come on this podcast because I really do think it has saved me and I want people to know that you’re just worth it. You’re just worth it and I bet you if you’re listening, you would really benefit from. Sherry, you just, the non-judgmental stance you take is very, very special. And I’m going to get choked up. I’m just so appreciative that I found you. I really think you saved what was going a really bad way for me. I’m very grateful.

So I would just recommend anyone to give it a shot. It’s one month, if you don’t like it, you say, “Okay, I’m done.” Alright, Sherry, this was really fun.

Sherry: Okay, thank you so much, Anna, thank you for coming on the podcast, so appreciate you.

Anna: Okay, bye bye.

Thanks for listening to the Health, Habits, and Epic Living podcast. If you are ready to take the next step to improve your health, wellness, and lifestyle goals, head over to www.epicyou.com to check out my programs and to sign up for my free newsletter. Again that’s E-P-I-C-Y-O-U.com. 

Please note that the information in this podcast is for educational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice.

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